LiveBlog: A Conversation with Dr. R. Bowen Loftin and William Powers Jr.
This morning, Evan Smith of The Texas Tribune is sitting down with Texas A&M University President R. Bowen Loftin and University of Texas President William Powers, Jr. — and we're live-blogging the whole thing.
R. Bowen Loftin was named the 24th president of Texas A&M on February 12, 2010. He had served as interim president since June 2009. Prior to that, he spent four years as vice president and chief executive officer of the university’s marine-oriented branch campus, Texas A&M University at Galveston, where he also was professor of maritime systems engineering.
William Powers Jr. is the 28th president of the University of Texas at Austin. Before taking office on February 1, 2006, he served as dean of the university's School of Law, where he won recognition for recruiting a world-class faculty and attracting diverse and talented students.
In recent months, as the top research universities in Texas, UT and A&M have been at the center of a tense debate about the productivity and accountability of the work done at such institutions.
Liveblog
Powers goes first. "Absolutely there's a need for higher ed reform in Texas," he says. He says that's been a priority of his from the get go, and they have been redesigning courses and budgets. The cost and funding structure is not sustainable.
Loftin says he completely agrees.
"We are absolutely in favor of reform," Powers says. And he says they've been doing it for the last six years and an accelerated way in the last two.
Powers says the key question is "What are the outputs we're looking for?"
There's a certain kind of education that UT and A&M institutions engage in, he says, which integrates research into education. It's not the only model, he says, but it's integral to the state.
"We are absolutely in favor of reform," Powers says. And he says they've been doing it for the last six years and an accelerated way in the last two.
Powers says the key question is "What are the outputs we're looking for?"
There's a certain kind of education that UT and A&M institutions engage in, he says, which integrates research into education. It's not the only model, he says, but it's integral to the state.
Loftin says, of the reforms proposed by the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a conservative think tank in Austin that has seven proposed "breakthrough solutions" for higher ed, only five can be addressed at the university level.
Many of them are very noble things. Rewarding teaching is a good thing, but the question is, "How do you get there?"
Powers says that teaching ought to be a part of the salary structure, but he says, "We are also a research university." He says the key is getting the right balance in your outputs. He says, research is a critical part of what the university does, including at the teaching level.
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Bowen says he wouldn't say it was a good thing in the way it was done. His problems: It was a snapshot in time. Also, there was no indication of the sort of salary, when many professors get funding from multiple places.
He says the outputs chosen to determine represents "a statement about what our value system is." What is left out, he says, is the social value of the research.
In such a report, Powers notes, professors would be penalized for teaching small freshman seminars, which at UT they call "signature courses."
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AAU, by the way, stands for Association of American Universities, an elite group of research universities and the gatekeepers of tier one status.
He says law enforcement have told him that it's hard to tell who a good person or a bad person is and they don't want to make a mistake. Loftin also says that most of the students on his campus are against allowing concealed handguns on campus
Loftin says that programs are different and take different amounts of time. Also, students change majors. "We are committed to getting more students through quicker," he says.
Powers and Loftin indicate that it might mean an increase because of increased training for personnel. Loftin says it's unclear what it would or wouldn't do to insurance rates.
Powers: "Let me say, we're trying to pull students through the university in four years."
Loftin says they are redoubling their efforts on private funding. The answer "has to be" additional private support.
Loftin says he's very happy with A&M's. "We think we do very well," he says.
Powers says a lot of the research done at the College of Education is critically important. Though, he says, "Teaching is one of those areas, frankly like many areas, where book learning alone isn't enough."
Loftin: Legislation that will allow more flexibility, such as those that ease reporting requirements.
Powers agrees. He says principal investigators on National Science Foundation grants — something like 20 or 25 years ago — 10 percent of their time administering regulatory structure. Now it's up to 40 percent.
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